BigTTiger

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Oh, shit I wonder if when Pinky gets done with this game if he would be interested in doing a what if badik series like what if Lynette survived the childbirth and MC never met Zoey among other things.
 

Chillout1984

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Well drugs are what killed her sister so that's why Jill is so sour on that subject which I can't blame her on that but it's like MC tells her what other people choose to do is their business you can try and discourage them from doing x thing but ultimately, they're going to do what they want to do regardless like my sister always says to me you do you booboo lol
True, but some people absolutely do not want a partner that uses any kind of drugs, no matter how "harmless". Jill seems like such a person, and I've got a feeling that she will have a hard time dealing with it if MC decides smoke more joints in the future (if we get that option).
 

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Oh, shit I wonder if when Pinky gets done with this game if he would be interested in doing a what if badik series like what if Lynette survived the childbirth and MC never met Zoey among other things.
If I remember his Q&A('s) correctly, he's at most interested in a graphical upgrade of BaDIK, but no spinoff games.
 
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True, but some people absolutely do not want a partner that uses any kind of drugs, no matter how "harmless". Jill seems like such a person, and I've got a feeling that she will have a hard time dealing with it if MC decides smoke more joints in the future (if we get that option).
Maybe we'll just have to wait and see where Pinky goes with it.
 

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Its the same fucking thing with tremolo telling the DIKS he got a blowjob DESPITE knowing Tommy is going to get pissed about it and JB telling him to stfu about it. Its due to the MC being fucking stupid and how DPC wants him to act. This is the same person who thought he was a rebound despite getting closer to sage and being friends with benefits.

This isn't about you or me saying that it won't be a smart idea, but something the MC would due or blurt out. If you played with Jade and Sage, he is on the verge of wanting to tell her that he fucked her mom. Even Derek tell him, you can do one or three things, either stfu and live with it, tell her and rip the band aid off or break up with her and never see her again.

Again Sage doesn't expect every detail, but she wants honesty on someone she doesn't trust aka Zoey and to a lesser extent Lily if you are playing on the Lily queen path.
So you guys are saying, and let me clarify, that rejecting someone confessiom causes the same level of guilt that sleeping with a "friend" girlfriend(Heather) or Mother(Jade)? Like whaaaa...

And YES, I know regardles of affinity Fuckface is mega selective when it comes to what does he feel bad about but that's merely good old DPC bias/shit writing.
BUT, we can see in this very same episode that if Fuckface didn't do anything with Jade he tells Jade he has nothing to tell Sage about Jade and how what happened at Gender studies class is "on her conscience".

Of course DPC can backpedal on MC feelings about the situation next episode(I am not denying that) but I'm just saying it wouldn't make sense and that Zoey confession situation doesn't (or at the very least shouldn't) generate any guilt if MC just rejects her unlike other situations discussed and compared in this topic.
 
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  • Priscilla is Quinn for god sake... Priscilla Quinn, that's her name. How restaurant initially started would be nice to know tho.
  • Mona just went home, Quinn is terrified of what their junkies did to Riona so what do you think Quinn would do to Mona? Nothing really, Quinn is not as evil as many think she is (including her).
  • Lynnette's pregnancy and pre-labor will probably be included in diary, maybe relieving more about her death and what happened later would be part of meeting grandpa. I assume MC will read something in diary what will make him want to meet/confront his mother's dad.
  • Bella is just faithful and crazy in love in James, it's called principles. She is married so no cheating is allowed, simple as that.
  • Josy's parents story is irrelevant, Sage's the same. We already have younger Bruke's story and it gave us enough context, we cannot get background story of each character back to their childhood (including their parents) or we will never get this game to the end...
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Sage vs Zoey, huh?

Okay, here we go.

Sage is very laid back about MC's other relationships for the most part. There are a few moments where she is a bit jealous such as when talking with Heather and Camila or when Maya tells her about kissing him. Mostly she is very accepting of his past. The idea of threesomes is a turn on for her and she actually feels a bit guilty about Maya, Josy and Jill being hurt. It is only over Zoey that Sage goes nuts. Well she obviously will go nuts about Jade too but I trust I don't need to go to detail over that one. So why Zoey?

Well the thing is that with absolutely everyone else Sage won. MC went around and then chose her. No one is a threat. She won. But she didn't win against Zoey. Zoey was not an option when he chose Sage. Zoey is an actual threat.

Another point is that in certain ways Sage is actually very inexperienced. She has obviously had plenty of sex and other boyfriends, but MC is the first truly emotional relationship she has ever had. Sage is shown to worry about this quite a lot and actually comments on how easily MC talks about emotional matters. So how did he get so good at that? Well through his first relationship obviously. In other words with Zoey. Zoey = threat.

We of course know that MC's and Zoey's relationship had quite a few issues. They never labelled it as a relationship and took a lot of things for granted which is ultimately why it didn't survive as a long distance relationship. Sage however is in the dark about this and it's very natural for her to be worried. During the phone conversation she gets a much better idea of what Zoey is to MC and they make up. He has moved on so Zoey is much less of a threat.

But MC's attitude was largely based on the idea that while Zoey was his first love the feelings weren't mutual. Zoey's confession shows him to be wrong about it and that Sage was right to mistrust her.

At the end of the episode he hasn't really had much time to collect his thoughts and it's understandable that the choice of telling Sage about Zoey's confession was pushed to the next episode. I'm not at all sure how the story will evolve from there, but expect the choice of telling Sage to come when the adrenaline of getting Derek to the hospital has worn off. They probably won't have that talk actually at the hospital, but I hope the option to tell Sage comes either that night or on the next day.

Regardless of how things work in typical real world cases, I think the game will demand telling Sage in order to get her best ending. That seems to me to be that right choice. Tell Sage the right way about it. Tell her that she was right about Zoey and that he chooses Sage. Tell her that he still wants Zoey's friendship, but gets that it might not be possible. And so on.

Hmmm... I better stop imagining that conversation or they'll end up getting married in my head. Again.
 

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At what point did anyone tell MC not to confess to the DIKs what him & Heather did? Please share a screenshot of this. You're making assumptions because to this point Tremolo has shown no indication that Zoey's confession is eating away at his conscience. Feel free to share a screenshot contradicting this point. Now granted there hasn't been a lot of time between Zoey's confession & the Christmas dinner.

The same mandatory text you have to send to Zoey, you are also required to send Sage an "I love you" text if you confessed love for her. He didn't hesitate at all. Maybe in the next episode he will feel guilt about not telling Sage right away. But to this point it is a non issue in his head.
JB after the Halloween party when you tell him everything you know. I am telling you straight from the game not from assumption which you are doing. The context of the text message says what the MC was feeling and has the guilt for confessing to her at the BBQ.

This is just a DPC thing where a little thing can be brought back to haunt you, basically its a wait and see on what DPC cooks up in EP12


So you guys are saying, and let me clarify, that rejecting someone confessiom causes the same level of guilt that sleeping with a "friend" girlfriend(Heather) or Mother(Jade)? Like whaaaa...

And YES, I know regardles of affinity Fuckface is mega selective when it comes to what does he feel bad about but that's merely good old DPC bias/shit writing.
BUT, we can see in this very same episode that if Fuckface didn't do anything with Jade he tells Jade he has nothing to tell Sage about Jade and how what happened at Gender studies class is "on her conscience".

Of course DPC can backpedal on MC feelings about the situation next episode(I am not denying that) but I'm just saying it wouldn't make sense and that Zoey confession situation doesn't (or at the very least shouldn't) generate any guilt if MC just rejects her unlike other situations discussed and compared in this topic.
Guilt is guilt, guilt of a sexual act with a friends partner and guilt of sleeping with your SO's relatives.


This is probably just inconsistencies with DPC writing and how he writes the MC at times, bold and at times a wuss.
And the guilt with the text messages to zoey after confessing a whole ass feeling at the BBQ is one of them especially on the second option
 
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So you guys are saying, and let me clarify, that rejecting someone confessiom causes the same level of guilt that sleeping with a "friend" girlfriend(Heather) or Mother(Jade)? Like whaaaa...

And YES, I know regardles of affinity Fuckface is mega selective when it comes to what does he feel bad about but that's merely good old DPC bias/shit writing.
BUT, we can see in this very same episode that if Fuckface didn't do anything with Jade he tells Jade he has nothing to tell Sage about Jade and how what happened at Gender studies class is "on her conscience".

Of course DPC can backpedal on MC feelings about the situation next episode(I am not denying that) but I'm just saying it wouldn't make sense and that Zoey confession situation doesn't (or at the very least shouldn't) generate any guilt if MC just rejects her unlike other situations discussed and compared in this topic.
So you're saying that it never gnawed at your conscience that you had to reject someone you really liked in the past (even recent past), simply because when they admitted they did want to try a relationship you were already in another one?

To me this happened 2 or 3 times in my life, and all of those times it kept gnawing to my conscience for a couple of weeks to a few months (depending on how hard my crush on them was) in the same way as is happening with Josy. Trust me, it isn't a nice feeling and can haunt you for quite a while, especially if you're still good friends with them.
 

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Sage vs Zoey, huh?

Okay, here we go.

Sage is very laid back about MC's other relationships for the most part. There are a few moments where she is a bit jealous such as when talking with Heather and Camila or when Maya tells her about kissing him. Mostly she is very accepting of his past. The idea of threesomes is a turn on for her and she actually feels a bit guilty about Maya, Josy and Jill being hurt. It is only over Zoey that Sage goes nuts. Well she obviously will go nuts about Jade too but I trust I don't need to go to detail over that one. So why Zoey?

Well the thing is that with absolutely everyone else Sage won. MC went around and then chose her. No one is a threat. She won. But she didn't win against Zoey. Zoey was not an option when he chose Sage. Zoey is an actual threat.

Another point is that in certain ways Sage is actually very inexperienced. She has obviously had plenty of sex and other boyfriends, but MC is the first truly emotional relationship she has ever had. Sage is shown to worry about this quite a lot and actually comments on how easily MC talks about emotional matters. So how did he get so good at that? Well through his first relationship obviously. In other words with Zoey. Zoey = threat.

We of course know that MC's and Zoey's relationship had quite a few issues. They never labelled it as a relationship and took a lot of things for granted which is ultimately why it didn't survive as a long distance relationship. Sage however is in the dark about this and it's very natural for her to be worried. During the phone conversation she gets a much better idea of what Zoey is to MC and they make up. He has moved on so Zoey is much less of a threat.

But MC's attitude was largely based on the idea that while Zoey was his first love the feelings weren't mutual. Zoey's confession shows him to be wrong about it and that Sage was right to mistrust her.

At the end of the episode he hasn't really had much time to collect his thoughts and it's understandable that the choice of telling Sage about Zoey's confession was pushed to the next episode. I'm not at all sure how the story will evolve from there, but expect the choice of telling Sage to come when the adrenaline of getting Derek to the hospital has worn off. They probably won't have that talk actually at the hospital, but I hope the option to tell Sage comes either that night or on the next day.

Regardless of how things work in typical real world cases, I think the game will demand telling Sage in order to get her best ending. That seems to me to be that right choice. Tell Sage the right way about it. Tell her that she was right about Zoey and that he chooses Sage. Tell her that he still wants Zoey's friendship, but gets that it might not be possible. And so on.

Hmmm... I better stop imagining that conversation or they'll end up getting married in my head. Again.
It's a good description of how Zoey is an unknown variable for Sage. And how do people react to the unknown? They get scared and wary of it, and they get defensive. She reacted very naturally.
 

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Going back and replaying one of my Sage branches and came across the Rooster after the recital and Sage says that she would've killed to be there for it so I'm assuming that even though MC is training Sage how to fight and she's enthused about it and maybe even the fighting competition I still bet she would also like to go to the faculty party if only to see MC play.
 
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